[HolisticPet] Medicinal clay
So, without Peter, could we discuss clay anyway?
There is a yahoo group (AboutClay) that has been helpful but the
majority of the info and health problems pertain to people. I'm
interested in pet and livestock usage. I get very frustrated very
fast on my slow dial-up trying to research anything.
It would seem that clay could fill a gap in my do-no-harm remedies.
I'm put off by claims from people who sell any product. I want info
from people who use it - hows and whys.
I'm currently using it in a water bowl that serves 3 cats and 3 dogs.
They have other sources for water and free-choice EIS. At first, they
didn't drink the clay water but now they do. I'm not sure how much
benefit they get from it. The clay settles to the bottom but may be
adding valuable minerals to the water. I re-stir it occasionally and
the water stays VERY clean, as does the container. If I let the water
get low, they will lick the clay off the bottom.
I don't have any qualms about using something the animals will
voluntarily consume or where dosage isn't critical. I'm always
hesitant with anything I have to hide. I wanted to use it for my
horses last winter but it would have to go on their feed. They'd have
no choice about consuming it. It might be extremely beneficial by
providing minerals, general detox, digestive health, etc. All 4
horses are old and/or disabled, so I'm just trying to prevent
problems. I'm not treating anything in particular. I haven't been
able to find any specific info about livestock usage.
I do have one personal human success story to share if anyone is
interested. It could pertain to animal treatment.
Paula
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Re: [HolisticPet] Medicinal clay
I would like to hear too.
deirdre
On May 17, 2009, at 9:12 AM, Wendy Hutchins wrote:
>
> Hi Paula:
>
> I am interested in hear about clay. Until now I have never heard
> anything about it. What is it used for? I would love to hear your
> success story.
>
> Wendy
>
>
> --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Paula <Paula@hbeark.
>
>> From: Paula <Paula@hbeark.
>> Subject: [HolisticPet] Medicinal clay
>> To: HolisticPet@
>> Received: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 3:59 PM
>> So, without Peter, could we discuss
>> clay anyway?
>>
>> There is a yahoo group (AboutClay) that has been helpful
>> but the
>> majority of the info and health problems pertain to people.
>> I'm
>> interested in pet and livestock usage. I get very
>> frustrated very
>> fast on my slow dial-up trying to research anything.
>>
>> It would seem that clay could fill a gap in my do-no-harm
>> remedies.
>> I'm put off by claims from people who sell any product. I
>> want info
>> from people who use it - hows and whys.
>>
>> I'm currently using it in a water bowl that serves 3 cats
>> and 3 dogs.
>> They have other sources for water and free-choice EIS. At
>> first, they
>> didn't drink the clay water but now they do. I'm not sure
>> how much
>> benefit they get from it. The clay settles to the bottom
>> but may be
>> adding valuable minerals to the water. I re-stir it
>> occasionally and
>> the water stays VERY clean, as does the container. If I let
>> the water
>> get low, they will lick the clay off the bottom.
>>
>> I don't have any qualms about using something the animals
>> will
>> voluntarily consume or where dosage isn't critical. I'm
>> always
>> hesitant with anything I have to hide. I wanted to use it
>> for my
>> horses last winter but it would have to go on their feed.
>> They'd have
>> no choice about consuming it. It might be extremely
>> beneficial by
>> providing minerals, general detox, digestive health, etc.
>> All 4
>> horses are old and/or disabled, so I'm just trying to
>> prevent
>> problems. I'm not treating anything in particular. I
>> haven't been
>> able to find any specific info about livestock usage.
>>
>> I do have one personal human success story to share if
>> anyone is
>> interested. It could pertain to animal treatment.
>>
>> Paula
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[HolisticPet2] About Pulling Teeth
YIKES! Everyone who replied off list thank you! I will get to all of you,
individually, but I wanted to make sure you know how much I appreciate your
replies. Honestly, I had no idea so many people had to have their dog's
teeth pulled.
Thank you!!
Marilyn, Miko (Chasing lizards in Heaven), Bess, RoseyMae, and (FC) Beaver
Cleavear, Fort Bragg, CA
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Re: [HolisticPet] Medicinal clay
Hi Paula:
I am interested in hear about clay. Until now I have never heard anything about it. What is it used for? I would love to hear your success story.
Wendy
--- On Sun, 5/17/09, Paula <Paula@hbeark.
> From: Paula <Paula@hbeark.
> Subject: [HolisticPet] Medicinal clay
> To: HolisticPet@
> Received: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 3:59 PM
> So, without Peter, could we discuss
> clay anyway?
>
> There is a yahoo group (AboutClay) that has been helpful
> but the
> majority of the info and health problems pertain to people.
> I'm
> interested in pet and livestock usage. I get very
> frustrated very
> fast on my slow dial-up trying to research anything.
>
> It would seem that clay could fill a gap in my do-no-harm
> remedies.
> I'm put off by claims from people who sell any product. I
> want info
> from people who use it - hows and whys.
>
> I'm currently using it in a water bowl that serves 3 cats
> and 3 dogs.
> They have other sources for water and free-choice EIS. At
> first, they
> didn't drink the clay water but now they do. I'm not sure
> how much
> benefit they get from it. The clay settles to the bottom
> but may be
> adding valuable minerals to the water. I re-stir it
> occasionally and
> the water stays VERY clean, as does the container. If I let
> the water
> get low, they will lick the clay off the bottom.
>
> I don't have any qualms about using something the animals
> will
> voluntarily consume or where dosage isn't critical. I'm
> always
> hesitant with anything I have to hide. I wanted to use it
> for my
> horses last winter but it would have to go on their feed.
> They'd have
> no choice about consuming it. It might be extremely
> beneficial by
> providing minerals, general detox, digestive health, etc.
> All 4
> horses are old and/or disabled, so I'm just trying to
> prevent
> problems. I'm not treating anything in particular. I
> haven't been
> able to find any specific info about livestock usage.
>
> I do have one personal human success story to share if
> anyone is
> interested. It could pertain to animal treatment.
>
> Paula
>
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
> mailto:HolisticPet-
>
>
>
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RE: [HolisticPet2] Re: Raw Food Co-op membership fee
Hey Toni,
Our co-op is quite pricey, so there's no savings happening, even when I buy
by the case. The co-op "owner" insists on offering foods from only organic
and humanely raised animals. Some of us just cannot afford to buy that way.
Then, on top of that, we're now asked to pay a yearly fee. I'm just not
going to do it, which means I need to find other sources for my dogs' foods,
which is fine because I did that before I joined the co-op. The downside is,
the co-op does sell wonderful "dog" foods that I won't be able to buy
anywhere else.
The time to get to the co-op pickup is 2 1/2 hours one way; that isn't too
bad, because when I'm in that area I do other things to make the cost of the
trip worthwhile.
Marilyn, Miko (Chasing lizards in Heaven), Bess, RoseyMae, and (FC) Beaver
Cleavear, Fort Bragg, CA
>>>From: HolisticPet2@
On Behalf Of allpetsboarding@
To get back to pet food coops. I have an account with two different
warehouses that supply pet/farm items to retail stores in this area. It's
cheaper, that's for sure, for me to buy a couple of hundred dollars worth of
dog food at wholesale cost rather than retail. I would have a tough time
paying retail for my crew. I have thought many times if I could get enough
people to order with me, I could meet the minimum dollar amount and then be
able to order more often (fresher product) and not have such an enormous
cash outlay all at one time. That would put me in charge of ordering,
recieving, grouping according to who ordered what, collecting the money and
making copies of the catalog available to everyone at my expense. I get a
catalog from the wholesaler but those catalogs cost money and they don't
give them away easily. (I work full time in publishing so I know!) Not to
mention making sure that eveyone has their order in by order day and
absorbing the
cost when someone bails. Been there, done that.
So I guess, if you want the products you see through the coop, decide
whether you can buy them for a better price on your own. If you can, and if
driving wherever you need to go to get the products, then by all means,
don't join a coop. If you can't and the convienience of having someone be
responsible for the things you want is worth a few bucks to you, then the
coop would help you out for very little added cash. When I order something
on the net (because I live in the boondocks) I decide whether I am likely to
find that item next time I take a shopping trip to the next town, how
desperately I need it, and if the shipping compares to a 100+ mile round
trip for me to drive after it. And what if after I drive 50+ miles and spend
another 20 miles driving all over town I don't find what I want anyway? And
what if I do find it and it costs more than the item plus shipping on line?
All things to consider. I am the Queen of Tightwads but I know when I'm
beat.
So I just pay the money and quit thinking about it. When you fill your
truck up at the pump, you gripe but you pay for it and life goes on. Same
with pet food.
Toni in zone 4 Iowa USA
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[HolisticPet2] Co-op Marilyn
Marilyn,
I wasn't confused. I knew what you were talking about, I just thought
all co-ops operated the same way and for the same reasons.
When I first started feeding raw, I looked high and low for deals.
Many of the folks on the raw lists were buying through co-ops for
their dogs and I never heard a fee mentioned. I couldn't find any
source in a 2-state radius. I even contacted growers directly and got
nowhere.
Paula
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RE: [HolisticPet2] Co-op Marilyn
Oh, ok! Then I was confused. Good grief. LOL!!
>>>From: HolisticPet2@
On Behalf Of Paula
Marilyn,
I wasn't confused. I knew what you were talking about, I just thought
all co-ops operated the same way and for the same reasons.
When I first started feeding raw, I looked high and low for deals.
Many of the folks on the raw lists were buying through co-ops for
their dogs and I never heard a fee mentioned. I couldn't find any
source in a 2-state radius. I even contacted growers directly and got
nowhere.
Paula
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[HolisticPet2] About Pulling Teeth
It's ok to reply to me off list!!
If the canine tooth is pulled, will the dog's tongue hang out of its mouth?
I've asked a couple of people and they said absolutely not. I asked another
person and she said yes.
But I wanted to spread out my question to all of you to get more feedback on
it.
Thank you!
Marilyn, Miko (Chasing lizards in Heaven), Bess, RoseyMae, and (FC) Beaver
Cleavear, Fort Bragg, CA
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[HolisticPet2] Re: Raw Food Co-op membership fee
This fee/charge isn't setting well. I thought the whole point of
being part of a co-op was to get better prices by buying in bulk. The
only one anywhere near where I live is all dry items - grains, nuts,
etc. They do have a store where you can buy smaller quantities of
things but they will order whatever they have access to for you. You
just have to take the size package it comes in and you have to pick
the order up promptly. The benefit to them is getting better prices
on what they sell. There is no fee for ordering in bulk from them. I
keep saying 'them' - it is one woman. She does nothing for you expect
place your order. You bring your own carriers, put your order
together, and load it. She checks what you pick up against her record
of your order and you pay her. If you buy things in the store, that
is treated separately.
Paying a fee sounds like Sam's Club!
Paula
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Re: [HolisticPet] Air freshener Rosemary use Epilepsy
Thanks Wendy for pointing that out. But, I'm with you, I would not take chances either way.
Be Blessed!
Rena
----- Original Message -----
From: Wendy Hutchins
To: HolisticPet@
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [HolisticPet] Air freshener Rosemary use Epilepsy
Rena I think you need to note that the articles you have listed refer to rosemary essential oil. The recipe given was for crushed rosemary or asprig of fresh rosemary doused with hot water. I don't think it would have the same effect as the esssential oil. However, it is well known that many essential oils can have adverse effects on pets.
For my part, even though it refers to rosemary oil, I don't think I would want to take any chances even with the fresh rosemary. I remember reading once that a dog had a reaction to an essential oil (can't remember which one) by being in the same room so you just can't be too careful.
Wendy
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